{"id":26215,"date":"2020-07-24T16:19:00","date_gmt":"2020-07-24T14:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/avs-advisors.com\/?p=26215"},"modified":"2026-07-16T16:41:53","modified_gmt":"2026-07-16T14:41:53","slug":"philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/avs-advisors.com\/de\/news\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\/","title":{"rendered":"Philipp Fleischmann im FAZ-Interview zu F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4ften in der Krise"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vor Kurzem sprach unser Kollege Philipp Fleischmann mit Benjamin Fischer, Wirtschaftsredakteur bei der <em>Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung<\/em>, dar\u00fcber, wie F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte durch Krisenzeiten navigieren.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Das Interview beleuchtet, wie anspruchsvoller F\u00fchrung geworden ist, seit Unternehmen verst\u00e4rkt auf dezentrale Strukturen und mobiles Arbeiten setzen. Philipp Fleischmann betonte die wachsende Bedeutung klarer Kommunikation, einer sichtbaren Pr\u00e4senz \u00fcber digitale Kan\u00e4le hinweg und eines ehrlichen Umgangs mit Unsicherheit. In einem unvorhersehbaren Umfeld kann das Eingest\u00e4ndnis, dass sich nicht jede Entwicklung im Voraus absehen l\u00e4sst, m\u00f6glicherweise mehr Vertrauen schaffen als der Versuch, eine tr\u00fcgerische Sicherheit zu vermitteln.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Das Gespr\u00e4ch thematisierte au\u00dferdem die Situation von F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4ften, die sich unerwartet auf der Suche nach einer neuen Position wiederfanden, nachdem Unternehmen Kosten gesenkt und ihre Organisationen umstrukturiert hatten. Fleischmann empfahl, einen solchen \u00dcbergang als Gelegenheit zu begreifen, die eigenen beruflichen Priorit\u00e4ten neu zu bewerten, Klarheit \u00fcber die angestrebte Position zu gewinnen und zu bestimmen, welche Erfahrungen und St\u00e4rken daf\u00fcr besonders relevant sind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dar\u00fcber hinaus hob er die Bedeutung pers\u00f6nlicher Netzwerke, glaubw\u00fcrdiger Referenzen und eines sorgf\u00e4ltig gepflegten beruflichen Profils hervor. Digitale Plattformen wie LinkedIn haben bei der Besetzung von F\u00fchrungspositionen zunehmend an Bedeutung gewonnen, insbesondere f\u00fcr F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte, die ihre Sichtbarkeit bei Executive-Search-Beratungen und potenziellen Arbeitgebern erh\u00f6hen m\u00f6chten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\">Interview lesen (Paywall) \u2197<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Neuigkeiten aus dem Umfeld von AvS Advisors<\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":135,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"news-post-template","format":"standard","meta":{"_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[73,78,22],"class_list":["post-26215","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-eng","tag-philipp-j-fleischmann","tag-searchable"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Philipp Fleischmann discusses leadership in times of crisis with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung - AvS Advisors<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/avs-advisors.com\/de\/neuigkeiten\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"de_DE\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Philipp Fleischmann discusses leadership in times of crisis with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung - AvS Advisors\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"News from AvS Advisors\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/avs-advisors.com\/de\/neuigkeiten\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"AvS Advisors\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2020-07-24T14:19:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2026-07-16T14:41:53+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/avs-advisors.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/IMG_0435-scaled.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"2560\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"1707\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Julia Nelles\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Verfasst von\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Julia Nelles\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Gesch\u00e4tzte Lesezeit\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2\u00a0Minuten\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/news\\\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/news\\\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Julia Nelles\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/edb4214bd28e01641a8ed16c00af942e\"},\"headline\":\"Philipp Fleischmann discusses leadership in times of crisis with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung\",\"datePublished\":\"2020-07-24T14:19:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2026-07-16T14:41:53+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/news\\\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":196,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/#organization\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/news\\\/philipp-fleischmann-discusses-leadership-in-times-of-crisis-with-the-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/avs-advisors.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/01\\\/IMG_0435-scaled.jpg\",\"keywords\":[\"eng\",\"Philipp J. 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